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no turn signals - 8/5/2006 12:41:37 AM
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pilotlars
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i just bought a 1985 E-150 conversion van and i swear the signals worked on the way home. when i left a few hours later they didn't. when i turn the hazards on only the rear lights flash, i'm not sure how, but i think this is related. also- i ordered a haynes manual on ebay but it will be a few days till it arrives: which fuse controls this?? i removed all of them, cleaned them, and cleaned the fusebox, and replaced them. and where is the signal flasher? i see the hazard flasher. that didn't help at all. still no signals, nor any dash lights. all my fuses are glass, although i have a smaller fuse box mounted to the firewall which has 4 plastic flat fuses, anyone know what those are for?? thanks for any help.
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RE: no turn signals - 8/5/2006 8:21:13 AM
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94 4x4 ranger
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I would start with new bulb's and a new signal flasher. The flasher is probly located by the steering collum or the fuse box once you locate it i would swap it with the other flasher to see if it work's.
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RE: no turn signals - 8/5/2006 10:42:29 AM
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The flasher can be the same as the hazzard. Some are square and some are round.
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RE: no turn signals - 8/5/2006 1:41:40 PM
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thanks, the bulbs are fine, there is a silver round flasher, which i can feel click when the hazards are on. does someone know which circuit they are on?? which fuse is it?? any idea about the 4 plalstic fuses?? and i just discovered that my engine won't start. i have spark, and there is fuel in the tank... could there be an electrical thing keeping it from starting?? do these 4bbl carbs have a fuel cut-off solenoid? i wish it weren't 100F out here so i could really work on the thing!!!
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RE: no turn signals - 8/5/2006 9:14:18 PM
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As for the flashers that are flashing you want to know wich circuit there on ? I dont know but you can pull fuses until it stop's fashing this will tell wich circuit there on. As for the 4 plastic like fuses i would say scince it is a conversion van that it may not be ford. As for the van not starting is it possible that you have blown a fuse or knocked a wire loose when you were trying to fix some of the other electrical problems?
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RE: no turn signals - 8/6/2006 6:36:11 AM
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again, i can't read what most of the fuses are labled, but i connected both ends w/o a fuse in each and every fuse simultaneously and still no turn signals. with the hazards on only the rears flash. apparently the hazards have a dedicated fuse. there is a black wire, kinda thick, that goes from under the dash to the engine cover, and then down along the bottom, it meets with a similar wire in the middle of the vehicle and continues farther back. it's not connected to anything though... it probably should be, when i attach it to a +12V contact something in the engine clicks, and the brake and seatbelt lights on the dash illuminate. the engine still won't catch... but should this be connected to the 'run' fuse, labled 'engine', maybe?? is this part of the duel-fuel tank system??? the engine catches with starter fluid then dies after several seconds. and where is the fuel filter on this thing??? the walmart fram/autolite book doesn't list one, although the pepboys repair guide does. should there be an electric fuel pump or is this all mechanical, since it's carbureted?? i know, lotsa questions, but i'd like my van to run sometime before i actually need to be somewhere, lol. thanks in advance!
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RE: no turn signals - 8/6/2006 9:44:01 AM
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Ok for the fuel problem if you spray carb cleaner in the intake and it run's you have a fuel pump prolblem. If you say it is carbaurated the pump should be located on the engine (Mecanical)lower front.Follow the line from the carb disconnect it at the carb and crank the engine for a few seconds. No fuel ? It is the fuel pump. Fuel filters just dont go bad.
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RE: no turn signals - 8/6/2006 10:16:13 PM
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and fuel pumps do??? without using them?? lol, well,i managed to get it running, although i'm not sure i did anything. later that day it died again. i bought a filter, now i need to find out where the thing is hiding. i'll start with replacing that. and i've thought about the fuel pump as well. i'm still not convinced there isn't some sort of electrical component to this, maybe regarding the 2 tanks. pep boys printed me out a diagramme of the fuse box, and and position 4 is the aux fuel tank solenoid, that's the one that makes something in the engine click when i wiggle it. position 3 is a throttle solenoid, and finall the turn signals are in location 10, along with the back up lights, and windshield washer. i've neither tested nor confirmed that those things work.... although i have bypassed all the fuses, even all at once, and nothing more has worked. i'll hike over to where the van is and check for the filter, pump, and hopefully get the thing back here! thanks again for the advice!!
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