No Power Windows, Dome Light, Radio, Instrument Cluster
I recently ran into an issue where my Power Windows, Radio, Dome Light Instrument Cluster do not work anymore. I have checked the fuses and everything seems to be fine with them. Any ideas of what I should check as this is my tow rig and while she run's fine it sucks without the instrument cluster, windows, etc... not working.
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Same Issue
I have the same issue with my 2002 rig. have found a solution? would be nice to know what the issue is.
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No solutions yet. I even noticed that my brake lights and blinkers aren't working although my brake light over the rear doors is. Very frustrating about ready to take it in to the dealer. Afraid of the bill though.
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What year X ?
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It is a 2002
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If you've checked, double checked all the fuses, chances are the cluster is bad.. Is the cluster completely dead? no indicator lights, gauges ect.?
The cluster has an internal battery saver relay controlled by an integrated micro processor for control over of some of the options.. Being its a tow vehicle has it ever had any 'fuse taps' inserted into/on the fuse legs? Have seen problems with various circuits when the wider tap end inserted on one of the fuse legs over stretches the CJB fuse connections, then when removed, causes a bad connection on the fuse leg/s.. Probably not, but a thought/possibility and checking for power distribution for all the feeds to and/or at the cluster should be certain before the cluster is condemned.. |
Some of the lights still work in the cluster. Seat belt restraint light, ABS light, Battery light. None of the gauges or the trip odometer work. Even my overhead display for fuel mileage, miles left on the tank of gas, etc... doesn't work. The temperature on the overhead display still works though. I have never directly spliced into wires on the back of the CJB. I did however add an aftermarket brake controller but that still seems to function fine. I don't know if I have two problems right now as the truck will now not start either. It isn't getting power from the ignition to the starter solenoid. It is like the Transmission Range Sensor isn't allowing power to the solenoid. I checked the wire out of the ingnition switch and it is sending power when I turn the key. I even jumped it from this wire to the solenoid and the truck fire up but no gauges still.
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Figured it out!!
Well there was actually two things wrong.
1.) Won't Start - This ended up being the Dark Green wire from the Ignition module to the CJB had it's terminal pulled out of the back of the C202b connector. Problem solved. 2.) Windows, Instrument cluster, etc... not working - This ended up being there was an internal short in the CJB from the F2.35 fuse to the actual exit wire (Black/Light Green). This wire powered the battery saver relay which is connected to alot of items like the instrument cluster, windows etc... Thank god it is figured out. |
same problem. no electric to instrument panel
hi funkymm0011,
i have just discovered same problem this morning with my 2003 ford explorer. no power to the windows nor instrument panel. cannot see fuel gauge speed etc. no radio, no internal dome light. BUT headlights work and car starts and runs great. curious if you did the repair yourself or took it to dealership? if dealer did repair how much was the repair??? $$$$ |
Same issue
I'm having the same exact issue... although mine is kinda self created. It started after I replaced the lamps with custom placed LED's... In it of itself it worked great for several months, but I had a dud LED so I repaired it, then added a few more LED's for some dark spots. I plugged the cluster back in and heard a POP. Now at that time the before I unplugged it, the LED's for the LCD, the gauges were reseting like normal, and window button lights and dome lights were all on. I unplugged it, looked for spark reminace, checked the fuses, all OK so I plugged it back in thinking it was maybe the plasic just snapping together, but it still didn't work... now I'm stuck. The LED's I added test fine, no shorts, and there wasn't any LED wires being grounded. So I'm at a loss.
2004 f150 xlt super crew |
Just fixed this issue?
I had same problem, no interior lights, no instament panel, no power windows. Most likely problems are delayed accessory relay ( should click when plugged and unplugged.) If you recently had a low battery then most likely the battery saver relay is stuck. This is located on the circuit board of your instrament panel cluster. Little black box (about 1/2"wides x 1" long) right beside the two smaller plugins going into the cluster. I fixed mine by just tapping on it. Hope this helps!
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there is a big connector up in the inside firewall, drivers side, near the top, I read about it a year or so ago.. said water from windows sucking around the dash, or windshield leads, would corrode the contacts in this unit and you needed to clean them, and fill the thing with no-oxidation grease.. seems like they called it MSN or MSD or something similar to that?..
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Try this
Ok this is going to sound really stupid but here it goes: I left my radio on with the door open for hours and killed the battery. After jumping my excursion none of the main power items (Speedo, windows,guages, etc) worked. Went through all the fuses and found they were all good. So here is how I fixed the problem: I disconnected the battery and let sit a few minutes and re-connected. Turned the key on and walla everything works.
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Originally Posted by jkeller1964
(Post 81177)
Ok this is going to sound really stupid but here it goes: I left my radio on with the door open for hours and killed the battery. After jumping my excursion none of the main power items (Speedo, windows,guages, etc) worked. Went through all the fuses and found they were all good. So here is how I fixed the problem: I disconnected the battery and let sit a few minutes and re-connected. Turned the key on and walla everything works.
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Check your clusters buddy.
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one way to do it
after installing a new alternator, i had no power windows, no power seats, no interior lights, no radio, and i could not open the rear window plus the instrument cluster was all over the place.
i tried several things that i found on line ... none worked ... my mechanic/friend of the family had one idea but it did not work and i was about to take it to him when i decided to try crazy i pulled all fuses associated with the delayed accecories ...2 under the hood and 6 under the dash ...i then started the truck and started putting them back in ... first the two under the hood, then under the dash ... i put in a 5 amp fuse ... i think it was a memory fuse ... and the radio started blasting peter gabriel .... woo hoo i called my mechanic and he said he would try it next time he had an electrical stumper and if it works ... i win a case of beer good luck all |
Originally Posted by funkymm0011
(Post 52658)
No solutions yet. I even noticed that my brake lights and blinkers aren't working although my brake light over the rear doors is. Very frustrating about ready to take it in to the dealer. Afraid of the bill though.
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jkeller1964,
OK just had to sign up so I could thank you!!! went to leave this morning and the beast was dead...as a "door nail" so we took the wifes truck...we do volunteer work together. and did not look forward to figuring out the truck problem when we got home. 2004 excursion.. jumped battery and figured things would be OK after a good charge. But the alternator and battery are new as of this spring..so was miffed as to what had happened When the truck started .. the instrument panel was dead, truck runs and will start even after a small charge time.. but panel dead..partially..some of the panel lites were on but all gauges dead and the speedo was at 100..ODD then started noticing other things.. radio lit ..but would not play windows will not work, side panel running lights will not come on, and all interior lights gone.. OK Internet here I come. there has to be someone besides me that has seen all of this go bad as well. after an hour or so it seemed as though I was about to dismantle my dash and remove the inst cluster because I had checked on all the fuses needed and they were all OK so which cluster repair company was going to get my cash.. the only glimmer of hope was the connectors being loose at the top of the cluster ...since SOME of the inst lights came on...the ones on the right! but then I stumbled onto your glorious post. I decided ..well this sounds too good to be true...but worth a try easy thing ...let's hope for the best. Well took off neg lead on the battery for 10 mins went back and hooked it up and low and behold first thing I noticed was the interior lights came right on ( cus by now it was dark and figured I would have to deal with this in the AM but had internet hopes left! ) turned the key and the dash sprang to life just as I had hoped for!!! turned the key to start and all was as it should be!!! So thank you so much for taking the time to post what you had thought was: "Ok this is going to sound really stupid but here it goes:" I disconnected the battery and let sit a few minutes and re-connected. Turned the key on and walla everything works. I have to say, not only did you save me a ton of money, but all the time and grief of dismantling the truck waiting for a part I did not actually need and then reassembling everything just to find out I did not fix anything. Instead I got lucky enough to see your post. So Thank You again!!!!! VERY Grateful for your time and INFO PERFECT input to a truck forum!!! |
Here is my solution
2007 E350
I had no dome no radio no gauges no power windows no radio replaced fuse #22 all problems fixed except stereo removed stereo |
2005 excursion inst cluster power problem fix
Originally Posted by David Pruitt
(Post 122695)
2007 E350
I had no dome no radio no gauges no power windows no radio replaced fuse #22 all problems fixed except stereo removed stereo after google search found a solution when the battery went down all the way prior to this problem showing up it messed with something with the memory in the truck somehow disconnected the battery for 10 mins then reconnected it and everything came back as usual nothing else done but the battery thing I had checked all the fuses before trying the battery trick and everything was good that is when i went looking for more info ...other than the fuse fix hope this helps clear up some other owners problem thanks for the input though! |
Fords ((2004 F-150) Instrument panel problems
Originally Posted by funkymm0011
(Post 52316)
I recently ran into an issue where my Power Windows, Radio, Dome Light Instrument Cluster do not work anymore. I have checked the fuses and everything seems to be fine with them. Any ideas of what I should check as this is my tow rig and while she run's fine it sucks without the instrument cluster, windows, etc... not working.
I had just finished changing out the 3rd top brake light just to find out my instrument panel, automatic windows gas gauge etc were not working. I checked the fuses and didn't find any bad ones. I made an appointment at Ford because I was getting out of my range of experience, and was afraid to mess anything up further. My neighbor friend said are you sure you checked all the fuses because it pays to check again. Come to find out there was a 15 Amp fuse in location 6 in the manual controlling Park lamps, BSM Instrument panel illumination that was burned out. I missed it the first time. I put in a new fuse and WALA! everything worked. AND this controls everything you talked about in your post. Power windows, radio, dome lights, and instrument cluster. Always recheck fuses properly is what I learned. |
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