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frdtek05 11-28-2005 02:17 AM

My Thoughts on the 500
 
Just want to get a thread going on this car, so I'll post my idea's on it.

I work at a Ford Dealer and we've sold so few of this ugly thing that the boss doesn't waste his lot space with more than three units. He keeps them in the back lot with the other animals that bite. You can try to dress it up with 20's or some chrome around the wheel base but it is STILL an old persons car(don't get me wrong, my favorite and most loved person is my Grandma who drives a Camry). I really don't know what they were thinking when they put it out. Maybe they thought this would outshine a Cadi or an Acura TL for the same price. The plain truth is that it is ugly and will never sell in any large numbers. No wonder Ford stock is eight dollars a share. With this nasty looking, underpowered beast they may be just behind the AMC Gremlin in total sales. You might notice an abundance on the road next year simply because they had no other choice than to give them away. Those in law enforcement should worry, because this could be the front wheel drive replacement for the Crown Vic. Plenty of backseat and trunk space............. How will they ever fit a V-8 in there?

Does anyone really own one and not traded it in within 6 months?



mgcanada 12-02-2005 04:53 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
I'm an old Ford man and wanted to buy a 500 until I took a good look at one. The only good comment I have is that the view from the front seat was excellent. Otherwise it was very mediocre and overpriced. Ford has, from my standpoint, a horrible reputation for costly operation and frequent repairs. I've owned a 1988 T-bird since new and I love the car in the summer, winter it's a death-trap, but it has cost me more to keep it on the road than it did to buy.

I believe Ford and GM and Chrysler should spend a whole lot more time designing cars that stand up to North American driving habits and don't break down like they presently do. If they did that they wouldn't have to worry so much about design features because people will buy the reliability over design any day of the week. Don't believe me? Take a look at the sales of the Asian cars. They sell like hotcakes and there isn't a pretty one in the bunch.

I still have my T-bird for a little while yet but scrapped my wifes old Buick and replaced it with a Camry XLE 6-banger. Why? One primary reason...it's reputation for reliability. It's a beautiful car to drive but it sure doesn't get any second looks on Main Street....I have NO regrets!

stephen 12-05-2005 03:42 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
Well now your giving me 2nd thoughts about my FIRST Ford purchase in 30+ years.
I'd have to dispute the ride of the car tho. It does ride as nice as my 2002 Impala LS did but your right, the power doesn't seem to be there. Its very roomy for my wife and myself and we took it on a couple longs trips and it was quite a relaxing ride.
BUT my biggest headache has been the dealer's lack of knowledge on how to correct any problems with this car. Since the car is only 6 months old there's no way I'm going to get any trade-in value on it so I may just have to keep it around for awhile.
Interesting reading these posts tho.

--Stephen....

DCDave 12-17-2005 01:28 AM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
I tell you what... I have had a Pontiac Sunfire GT (96), a 2002 Honda Accord V6 coupe EX. Now I have a 2005 Honda sedan Accord 4 banger LX, and just baught the 500 for my girl... I love cars, always have, always will. A lot of my friends (and their families) work for Ford. I figured it's time to support them, so I'll buy one. I can understand people saying the 500 looks plain... it does to a point... I have the SE model, and I tell you what, I love the interior. It's a nice car flat out... Could it have more horse? Of course, that's not why I baught it. I had an 02 Honda Accord V6 Coupe... I went through 1 gear box, and 3 transmissions on it. Honda had a known problem on their v6 trannies from 98-02, and they didn't recall it. I had to go through Honda America and have them ship me out a brand new transmission. Talk about a pain in the ass. Honda's very reliable, so I thought. The 05 Accord I have now seems to be ok, but I've had a problem with the speakers going out on me every now and then. I can undestand people saying Ford needs to pick up their quality, but I tell you what, it doesn't matter what company you go with, there's always problems... No one's perfect. Go Ford!

josser 01-16-2006 12:08 AM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
i agree and disagree with you guys! i live in ford country and i love the ford trucks over the other crap trucks out there, likewise i also have several ford vehicles and never had any problems from any of them. On the other hand i've had problems with both the "very reliable" honda accord and toyota camry; transmission and heating and cooling problems.
At first i was wonering why ford only put a 203 hp motor on such a big car and then turn around and put 220 hp v-6 in the fussion which is smaller. The answer is the transmissions the fussion has a 5 speed auto tranny while the 500 has a continous variable tranny!
In many speed and acceleration tests the ford 500 beat the chrysler 300 with the hemi. the CCVT transmission has no gears and therefore directs more of the torque power to the wheels than the traditional gear trannies that loose torque due to friction and heat.
The other thing is that the ford 500 is made in sweden by volvo, it is a volvo S80 with ford sheetmetal.
My friends are big 6'8" and 300 lbs the car has some pep and something you don't find in the accord, or camry lots of head room( i have 2" past my hair i'm 6'"6) and leg room in the back seat (4" left even with the front seat all the way back)
Not to mention fully loaded with all wheel drive for 26K thats a bargain

stephen 01-23-2006 03:36 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
The only real concern I have with my 2005 Ford 500 is the transmission. It just doesn't seem to be shifting right. I had it in when I first bought the car in July 2005 and they had to adjust some computer setting. Every time you start out in the morning there's no power, its like its slipping and then grabs. Its now Jan and its starting to do the same thing.
I can also notice a rumbling sound when I put it in gear and I know this can't be right.
I'll take it back to the dealer but I'm not looking forward to that trip. They seem not to be able to handle the 500 and unfortunately that is where I purchased the car.
Outside of that we love the huge interior and it seems to handle very nicely.
--Steve....

hockeyhitman69 01-28-2006 10:07 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
you either a 6 speed or a cvt trans so the 6 speed takes long to shift gears which is normal and the cvt doesnt have any gears its like a skidoo no shifting

stephen 01-30-2006 05:18 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
If that shifting is 'normal' as you say; doesn't that pose a risk when trying to pull out and find out that you don't have any get-up-an-go and your stuck? If trying to merge into traffic etc I sure would like to know that I have some gears and power when I step on the gas.
--STephen...

blueP71 02-20-2006 03:17 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
Wow...am I the only guy who likes the Five Hundred? And I am only 22 to boot! So here is what I think of the Five Hundred:

The design is derivative, and it does closely resemble the VW Passat from two generations ago. However, I think the design is clean and attractive. There are actually quite a few Five Hundreds here in my town. And I must say, I prefer them in black with the chrome all over. The car just looks like its wearing a tuxedo. Such a handsome car.

I was a bit disappointed that Ford made it a FWD car, as opposed to RWD, but my dream Five Hundred will have the AWD option, so I am happy...if I can't have RWD, AWD will do just fine.

The engine: A warmed over Taurus Duratec in Ford's new family passenger liner? Ug. This was THE biggest disappointment in my opinion. 203 horsepower when cars from Toyota and Hyundai are now over the 230 horse mark? That's a shame. But isn't Ford supposed to be dropping a new 3.5 liter engine in that churns out 250 ponies? That sounds just right to me...I'll wait for the 3.5 Liter.

The transmission: Six speed auto or CVT...either one I'm happy!

The interior: Perhaps the best part of this car. It is simply gorgeous and roomy...and I love roomy cars. Ford nailed it on the interior with the Five Hundred.

I certainly hope Ford does not sell the Five Hundreds that are in overstock to rental companies. Ford should stick to its guns, forget about market share for a while and sell these cars for the price they want to sell them at -- this way it will keep the resale value up and hopefully the Five Hundred can retain its value like a Toyota Avalon does.

I drive a lot (14,000 miles in 6 months, from the Southern Californian desert to San Francisco) up Interstate 5, and I must say I see more and more Five Hundreds every time. That warms my soul.

I am stuck though...do I want a black Five Hundred, or a midnight blue Mercury Montego?

Tennesseestorm 09-27-2006 11:39 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
I know this post is old, but will ring in anyway. I test drove a 06' SEL today, with 13K with some body damage (see other topic). I found this car much better than the 2007 Buick Lucerne CXL that we rented last weekend. I found it more comfortable, smoother transmission and smoother engine acceleration. None of the problems were experienced that I have been reading here.

I would like to have seen the outside temperature display up in the instrument panel, rather than on the HVAC display.

harrybastidge 01-18-2008 10:34 AM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
I do alot of traveling in my line of work and therefore have had many different vehicles rented. I must say the Fords and Dodges were teh best. I don't like the feel of the imports, they look cheap and plain, and they surely aren't made to be thrown around. There is definitely a difference in the quality of imports to American. In my past few trips, I make a point to reserve a Ford. Edge, Taurus, 500, whatever. I like the robustness of the vehicles. They are solid and don't make noises like their foreign counterparts when running over rough roads. I bought my Ford 500 Limited AWDafter having driven them on numerous past trips. My 500 has very minor bugs...such as headlights turning on and off if left in the off position. In auto, no more problems...Trunk needing force to open after hitting the button. Other than that, I have no problems. I love the car. It has never let me down. I understand it is underpowered but I also realize it isn't a sports car. It drives smooth, feels solid, and can drive almost 400 miles on a tank of gas using the Cruise Control. Mine has all the creature comforts including the heated seats and mirrors...you can't get some of these options on a rice-burner. I will choose American and support American everychance I get. The car looks and runs great. When I bought it, I've had lots of people compliment it, and still get the occasional good word for what astunner it is.

Bronco Bub 01-27-2008 11:04 AM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
Well my 500 has been ok, I like the style, the room front and rear, the trunk space - 3 sets of golf clubs and baggage for 4. I too would like more horse power. One issue I have as that the engine will surge under acceleration?However with just thefront wheel drive model I can get 25 mpg around town and 30-31 on the highway.Overall I like it.

Oh don't hit any deer, as it's expensive to repair. Left front fender, hood, grill, inner fender, head light...$2700.

I got 3 this year. 1 with the 500, 1 with the 78 F150, and one with a rifle. The 78 F150 cost me 350 to fix, real metel in them fenders.

See ya, Bub

BRETM 02-27-2008 10:16 PM

RE: My Thoughts on the 500
 
Its alot cheaper to hunt with a rifle lol

JayR101 03-16-2013 11:49 PM

IMHO the 500 is a great car!
 
I have an 05 limited and absolutely love it. There is only 1 downfall and that is the front door locks freeze open so the doors won't latch. Think the problem has been corrected. I would recommend the car to anyone. My job requires me to go on the road in all weather, and I have never had an issue, even here in Michigan where the snow can accumulate by inches per hr. I have literally plowed snow over a foot deep. (Yes, good tires) I will be looking for another 500 style car once this one is worn out.

skip1930 03-28-2013 12:56 PM

I like the Ford 500/Mercury Montego.
 
It's 2013 ... The wife bought a new top-O-line 2007 Mercury Montego Premiere in 2007. It has 14,000 in town Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin miles on it now. So about 2,300 miles a year. That's nothing.

Comfy, quite, smooth, has lots of room that we never use, looks like every other car 'birthed' in a wind tunnel and just goes down the road doing what it's suppose to do. All the buttons and doodads still work.

Gets lousy gas mileage at 13.4 mpg according to the onboard message system. But what are you going to do? We drive it like it we have a raw egg between the adjustable gas pedal and our foot. I highly doubt the new Lincoln MKX get 45 mpg like the T.V. ads say.

I have a nagging suspicion about the transmission thanks to you guys.

Because of the transmission suspicions I'm happy with the 'Low' H.P. out put. I don't want to stress anything. I figure Ford Engineering twisted the drive train harder then I ever will.

For my money the 500/Montego gets up and scoots...but then again I like snails. I drove a 1996 VW Wasserboxer Syncro, 2200 cc, almost 300,000 miles before the heads continuously leaked coolant. Never a problem with the Syncro AWD. I drove it 40 miles to the junk yard.

I don't think Ford makes the 500/Taurus anymore...the car was just put together to get Ford by until the next generation came out. Nothing wrong with that.

If I was to do anything with the car, I'd go smaller 16 inch wheels with big fat gumball, soft riding, tall sidewall Goodyear Eagle tires.

skip.

EmmaJean500 07-03-2015 06:48 PM

My Mom's 2005 Five Hundred SE
 
Now it's 2015. My Mom passed in Feb. this year. About a couple of weeks before my younger step-brother told me to use her 500 while I was visiting. So I did. I took it out for about an hour and a half. What a nice ride! At the time I owned a 2012 Escape, and a 2009 Focus SES. I called my wife to tell her we need to buy her car. I have a bad back, so it was much better in the 500. And I am not a little person. My offer of $6000 was accepted two days before she died. We sold the Focus. A few months before my step-brother gave me his Samsung Galaxy S III. It did not have a SIM card slot. I have an AT&T GoPhone account. I could not use it as a phone. He said you have some mp3s put them on that phone. He was right! It has a great audio player. I had to use a Radio Shack FM transmitter that was bought 20 years ago. It worked perfectly! I placed the transmitter in the dash g/box. This car is about the most different car I have ever owned. It has a CVT tranny. It took about two months to find the d/stick. Somebody here gave me good instructions on how to find it. I hope I can get 250 K out of this car. Forgot, when I bought the car it had 43,300 miles.

Darrell85 07-14-2015 09:21 AM

So I take it no one likes this model vehicle

EmmaJean500 07-14-2015 06:51 PM

On the contrary!
 
I love the car!

thezebra 08-05-2015 12:20 PM

I like it
 
I own a 2007 500 SEL with FWD bought it in 2011 with 50,000 miles on it. It just turned 100,000 and it does need some regular maintenance but so does any car. Changed plugs, PCV valve, EGR seal, serpentine belt and tensioner, replaced front brake pads and rotors, had Ford fix the throttle body surge for free. AC compressor went out at about 60,000 and had it replaced. I've done all the work myself except for the AC compressor. It's really a very comfortable ride. It has a lot more pickup since I changed the plugs, PCV and EGR seal. Next project is replacing the two engine mounts and the transmission mount. $40 a piece. I like the look and feel very safe. It has the side impact air bags. Overall, it's a great car for the $10,000 I paid for it back in 2011.

Johnnyrama60 06-25-2020 12:10 PM

I'm 14 years late to the party!
 

Originally Posted by blueP71 (Post 9328)
Wow...am I the only guy who likes the Five Hundred? And I am only 22 to boot! So here is what I think of the Five Hundred:

The design is derivative, and it does closely resemble the VW Passat from two generations ago. However, I think the design is clean and attractive. There are actually quite a few Five Hundreds here in my town. And I must say, I prefer them in black with the chrome all over. The car just looks like its wearing a tuxedo. Such a handsome car.

I was a bit disappointed that Ford made it a FWD car, as opposed to RWD, but my dream Five Hundred will have the AWD option, so I am happy...if I can't have RWD, AWD will do just fine.

The engine: A warmed over Taurus Duratec in Ford's new family passenger liner? Ug. This was THE biggest disappointment in my opinion. 203 horsepower when cars from Toyota and Hyundai are now over the 230 horse mark? That's a shame. But isn't Ford supposed to be dropping a new 3.5 liter engine in that churns out 250 ponies? That sounds just right to me...I'll wait for the 3.5 Liter.

The transmission: Six speed auto or CVT...either one I'm happy!

The interior: Perhaps the best part of this car. It is simply gorgeous and roomy...and I love roomy cars. Ford nailed it on the interior with the Five Hundred.

I certainly hope Ford does not sell the Five Hundreds that are in overstock to rental companies. Ford should stick to its guns, forget about market share for a while and sell these cars for the price they want to sell them at -- this way it will keep the resale value up and hopefully the Five Hundred can retain its value like a Toyota Avalon does.

I drive a lot (14,000 miles in 6 months, from the Southern Californian desert to San Francisco) up Interstate 5, and I must say I see more and more Five Hundreds every time. That warms my soul.

I am stuck though...do I want a black Five Hundred, or a midnight blue Mercury Montego?

But, I will call this a 14 year update. I bought my 2006 Ford 500 limited new. I have to regular maintenance done, oil & filter changes, coolant flush, tranny fluid changed, etc.. I love my 06 Ford 500 with the 6-speed Asin transmission. I've had very few problems with my the car since I purchased it. I upgraded to Akebono(?) Brakes front & rear, I did have to replace the alternator, but, that may have been my fault for hooking up a battery charger/ when my battery went bad. Lesson learned, never hook up a battery booster to a new car with all the modern PC stuff. The Ford 500 has plenty of my room, the trunk is massive! My 500 limited has 6 disk cd changer, decent sound system, and since I drive my Grandkids around I like that it has a side Air bag curtain, or side air bags also. Mine is just fwd, so it has the Asin 6-speed automatic transmission, which I've heard that Asin makes a really good transmission. The V-6 3.0 is ok, it's not the most under powered car I've drove, or its not the fastest either, it does ok, but maybe I drive like a Grandpa ( Papaw) that I am. Lol

Harold Reyes 11-16-2020 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by stephen (Post 8553)
The only real concern I have with my 2005 Ford 500 is the transmission. It just doesn't seem to be shifting right. I had it in when I first bought the car in July 2005 and they had to adjust some computer setting. Every time you start out in the morning there's no power, its like its slipping and then grabs. Its now Jan and its starting to do the same thing.
I can also notice a rumbling sound when I put it in gear and I know this can't be right.
I'll take it back to the dealer but I'm not looking forward to that trip. They seem not to be able to handle the 500 and unfortunately that is where I purchased the car.
Outside of that we love the huge interior and it seems to handle very nicely.
--Steve....

DOES NOT matter WHERE you bought it new!!!!!! TAKE IT BACK TO ANY FORD DEALER. That RUMBLING in DRIVE is a common FORD mistake, and they REFUSE to even acknowledge it!!!!! DAMN THEM and their RACIST Henry Ford , whose book was an inspiration to Hitler's Mein Kampf,


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