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lauraj 09-30-2008 09:46 PM

No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
Hi,

we have a 2007 F350 diesel. All of a sudden, we have no tail lights, no fog lights, no running lamps, no instrument lights. Any ideas why?? My hubby checked all fuses, they are all good.

Thanks
Laura

Hayapower 09-30-2008 10:19 PM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
Hi Laura..

Have him double check fuse F2.17 15amp in the central junction box.. Not only for an open/blown fuse, but 12v there through the fuse.. It supplies power distribution to the headlamp switch/fog light function as well as park lamp relay for the running lamps.. Panel illumination is through the F2.17 also..

Welcome to the site.....

lauraj 09-30-2008 10:31 PM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
THANKS!! That was it. He must have missed that fuse when he was checking. Thanks again for getting back to us so fast. You saved us a trip to the dealership...

Laura

Hayapower 09-30-2008 10:45 PM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
Glad it was an simple fix..





lauraj 10-03-2008 11:08 PM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
Hi, well it seemed to be a simple fix. It was fine for a day, but now we keep blowing that 15 amp fuse. It must be some sort of control fuse, because when we set the alarm, the lights (interior, running, etc) flash. So they are getting power thru another source.

Does anyone have any ideas on what could be causing that fuse to keep failing??

Thanks!

Laura

Hayapower 10-04-2008 11:46 AM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
Had a feeling [sm=headbang.gif]

Usually when a fuse goes, it's for a reason.. Could be the VSM vehicle security module.. Anything aftermarket been added to the truck? Probably should be checked at the dealer level since it's under warranty..

lauraj 10-04-2008 01:20 PM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
No, nothing after market added. Truck has been great so far. Will give my hubby the bad news. He hates taking it to the dealer!

Thanks for your help...

Laura

lauraj 11-05-2008 05:22 PM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
Hi!

Still having trouble. Hubby took the truck to the dealer. They could not find anything wrong at that point, fuses would not blow for them. They disconnected the light sentinal on the lights switch. Went fine for about two weeks, then same thing - only now can't find any blown fuses.

Took it back. They still can't figure it out. This time they isolated the alarm system and lights, ut reactivated the light sentinal. After about two weeks, it has happened again.

I am wondering. On at least two occasions, prior to the light failure, I had a 12V DC charger plugged into the powerpoint to charge my camera batteries. Could this be the problem??? Is the power point plug in any way connected to these lights??

What about the gem module. I read something about that elswhere.

Truck is a 2007 F350 Crew cab, dually, diesel, King Ranch. I think it is the 6.0L engine ( It can ru on both the old diesel and newly formulated.)

Thanks for any ideas!

Laura

lauraj 12-01-2008 09:32 AM

RE: No running lamps no tail lights no instr lights
 
The dealer has now had the truck for two weeks.

We took it back a third time and they replaced the light sentinal switch and overlaid new wiring. Within an hour of getting the truck home, the same light problem happened.

We took it back and they replaced the vehicle security module. Again, within an hour of getting the truck home, the lights failed again. All my hubby did was drive it home, park in the driveway, lock the doors/set alarm with the key fob clicker. Came out, unlocked truck with keyfob clicker, started truck, no lights.

Took it back to the dealer. They say they have installed fuses on "the other side of the system" isolating components and cannot get the lights to fail again. My husband is very leary of picking up the truck and having problems. It has failed on us three times at night, and we have been pulled over by the police once trying to limp home.

Does anybody have any other ideas? Dealer says they are following the Ford Tech hotline advice on this problem. I have read about the dealer installed alarm causing issues and windshield leaks causing electrical problems. Could these be involved in our problem. The really weird thing about the problem is that when you set the alarm, all of the lights that won't work normally, flash. So they are getting power somewhere??

Need help before hubby goes into depression over his truck!!

Thanks

Laura

rick 07-06-2009 10:01 PM

i have 2002 f 250 diesel i have no tail lights , park lamps, or tag lights.

HorchataKing 07-08-2009 08:11 PM

Hey Laura, just as a side thought I have had, if you live in CA I believe you now qualify as a lemon car. Same problem 3 times to the dealer constitutes lemon by CA law. You will need to look into it a bit further but the dealer should now be responsible for all costs of repairs. Again I'm not 100% but it is worth looking into. Sorry to hear about all your problems.

spastik monkey 03-04-2012 04:54 PM

I'm having the same issue. All fuses are good, and all relays I can access check out. Everything on the trailer plugs and trailer works, but I have no park lights on the truck. The brake and turn signals work, and the park lights on the LED mirrors work. Both the run lights are none. I can power up the circuit from the rear tail light with a power probe and all lights come on. The headlight switch is good. So there's gotta be some sort of junction box or relay I'm missing.

pfleet 09-19-2012 10:38 AM

Any luck with your problem Spastik Monkey?

spastik monkey 09-20-2012 07:22 AM

Fixed. I had to replace the CJB

pfleet 09-25-2012 06:34 AM

Got it fixed, it was a burnt wire coming from the headlight switch that went to the engine compartment. It was melted completely in half.

Hayapower 09-25-2012 11:23 AM

Thanks for the update,, glad it was an easier fix...


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