can somebody help me please? my daughters 02 cougar with 2.5 duratec ATX, started having issues last week, overheating took the water pump out and the cone/ring fell out? then noticed radiator leak,new radiator in place started up started getting hot no heat, no flow,then my buddy changed the oil and there was fresh coolant leaking into the oil pan.like a couple quarts he says. could it be the oil cooler? the car starts and idles perfect, I hope that it is just the oil cooler is bad????

 

Well if you just replaced the radiator, then there are only a few ways that coolant can get in the oil, and mostly all of them are bad. Intake manifold gasket, bad water pump/gasket after that you get into the bad stuff cuz it could be bad head gasket/cracked head or warped/cracked intake manifold or gasket. But need some more info, like what cone/ring fell out? When it runs do you see any white smoke? Does the oil look kinda creamy instead of the normal tan/brown kinda clear color? Without some more info it's a little hard to figure out. I just hope for your sake it's not a cracked head, but I doubt it is. Let me know if I can help at all, but if I cant, there are a ****load of guys here that can.

 

my friend changed the water pump after the cone fell out and put a new impeller side of the new pump on WITHOUT THE CONE? I told him I think it needs to be installed he said well it will at least move some more water? so that is what he did and after starting to overheat in the shop he shut it down because no water was moving thru the hoses! so when shut the engine off he went to change the oil that's when he said water/oil gushed out of the oilpan,so I installed a brand new motorcraft waterpump and thermostat, and just a precaution changed the oil cooler. hoping that was it,read on a few other post. the oil cooler is mounted to the engine under the oil filter? could this be it? the car starts and runs perfect no smoke what so ever? 2002 duratec cougar. so yes please all the advice you guys can give me is MUCH APPRECIATED, THANK YOU

 

ok???? wait???? what??? what do you mean without the cone? I just checked and on that car it should run you about 55 bucks for a new water pump, and it's nothing weird, all put together not in pieces. so I'm not entirely sure what "cone" your trying to describe. but did you say that he done "whatever" to it, and then you personally put a new water pump on it and thermostat and even the oil cooler? have you looked at the oil since you did that? Sorry if I'm wrong but does your friend know what he's doing? because what you're describing sounds really weird. I'll check back with ya after thanksgiving, hope you figure it out. But if not for sure I will help, because now you've got my interest peaked and the OCD in me wont let me give up.

 

ok, he ordered a water pump from no frills parts store and it only came with the impeller side,so I bought the complete motorcraft pump to be sure.so I just flushed all lines with water and air. started it up runs good. no heat.and the car runs normal temp? started driving it around the block the temp goes to high stays there.park it fans are coming on and temp returns to normal. I have never seen anything like it.was hoping it was plugged line or oil cooler but buddy showed me no enginee mounted oil cooler! damn. so I guess it is either head gasket, cracked head, or cracked block??? what do you think? thanks

 

is the check engine light putting out any codes? you might want to try and send "hanky" a msg. on here. that dude knows a lot more than i do. other than that i don't know, I got a buddy of mine that owns a mech. shop out here, i will try and get him on here to read through your posts.

 

coolant in the oil, is a sign of a very bad day for saving money...
the head gasket could of lost it's seal.
or the head may of warped or cracked.
after having the damaged components fixed/replaced. make sure and flush the coolant system, to make sure no oil is in it. and do the same for the lube oil system.... or later issues will appear...
also be sure to follow the service manual to vent the engine when filling the cooling system after having it open. for repairs or replacing a thermostat. most newer vehicles must be purged of air or they will overheat...

 

I will, any chance on where I can get a service manual for a 2002 cougar duratec engine? one guy says lower intake gasket, after replacing water pump and therm change oil and filter. ran car for 5 min. oil is ok. no coolant. a lot of air build up in coolant tank. when car is running for 5 min. crack the coolant tank cap air pressure lets out? the car will idle normal temp. no heat then tried diving down the rd.starts heading to HOT. PARK THE CAR and back to normal the temp goes. I am CONFUSED?

 

no CEL all seems well until you drive it? I need a master mech.and a service manual. thanks