General Tech Good at troubleshooting? Have a non specific issue? Discuss general tech topics here.

'99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 01:50 PM
  #1  
justrfb's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5
Default '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

Hello All,
My '99 Escort ABS system activates under normal braking situations. I already cleaned off the sensors and the "gear tothed" rings on the wheels and still does it. Any suggestions? Anyone have similar situation they fixed? Thanks.

Justrfb
 
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 02:26 PM
  #2  
Hayapower's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,555
Default RE: '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

Should be checked for DTC's and 'mismatched' speed indication for the whell sensors..
 
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 02:41 PM
  #3  
justrfb's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5
Default RE: '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

Thanks Hayapower,
What is a "DTC"? I am toying with the idea of just spending the (quoted) $60.00 for a used ABS module (under pass. seat) and going from there. This would be a little cheaper than getting a diagnose from my local dealer. What do you think? Thanks for your help...

Justrfb
 
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 05:01 PM
  #4  
Hayapower's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,555
Default RE: '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

DTC's are Diagnostic Trouble Codes..

Does the braking issue occur eveytime you brake?

Do youget an ABS light? If it has a stored code, it would give you a/some direction at least for a repair.. By watching the speed sensors on a scanner, you can tell 'or' match them to the vehicles speed for any indicated fault.. I'd be a bit leery about anythingused, and if it proves out to be a mismatched speed through one of the sensors your back in the same boat..
 
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 08:43 AM
  #5  
justrfb's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5
Default RE: '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

Hey Hayapower,
Thanks again for your reply... Between my wife and you, I am convinced I should stop fishing for answers and just bring it to the dealer. In the long run, if they can "hook-up" and pin-point the exact issue ... Much better than what I was going to try. I always work on my own cars though so old habits are hard to break.
On that note, could I bug you again (or anyone else who knows for sure) and ask what (if anything) I have to do to the ABS pump to bleed out and change all the brake fluid? I have 3 Escorts (just got this one about a month ago) and this is the first one with ABS... Thanks again for your time and concern...

Justrfb (checking all my options...)
 
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:34 PM
  #6  
justrfb's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5
Default RE: '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

My car is at the dealer for repair... I will report tomorrow on diagnose. Could someone please answer what, if anything I need to do with concern for my ABS pump when bleeding brakes to change fluid? Thanks.

Justrfb
 
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:59 PM
  #7  
justrfb's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5
Default RE: '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

Hello again...
The dealer said it was the tone ring... It is the ring that is on the drive axle with teeth on it. It is broke, "you can turn it"... It looks like a gear on the CV joint. The sensor (by induction) picks up each tooth as the wheel and drive shaft rotate and this is how the computer knows the speed of each wheel. $250.00 diagnose, R&R the ring and tax. Not too bad... Makes sense to me because there was no ABS light illumination (means electronics was not the issue) and they got the wheel right (I did not tell them which wheel you could feel the false activation on).
Can anyone help me on my question? Do I need to concern myself with the ABS pump when I bleed the system (including clutch slave cylinder) to change brake fluid? Thanks.
 
Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:43 PM
  #8  
tomb1269's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 281
From:
Default RE: '99 Escort ABS "false modulation" help...

I heard some place that there is a procedure to follow that you have to turn on the car etc. However, I have used a hand vacuum system for several years on ABS systems(replaced ABS controller and pump on95 Windstar, as well as several bleeds on a 92Grand Am (by 196k miles both calipers and a flex line had to be replaced))that can be picked up at a parts store that has a reservoir cup to catch fluid. Never had any problems. Just a thought, under 10mph ABS does not operate....so sitting still I always figured the system would allow me to bleed just like cars w/o ABS...........
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mack_ford
Ford Escape
12
Dec 17, 2013 04:22 AM
bhmorrill
Ford Escort
5
Mar 2, 2013 07:54 AM
oberding
Ford F-250 & Ford F-350
0
Sep 25, 2008 12:37 PM
Hutch64
Ford Ranger
0
May 31, 2007 09:21 PM
Dis@ster07
Ford Ranger
11
Oct 27, 2006 09:10 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:16 AM.