Ford F-150 The entry level full size truck from Ford, one of America's best selling for decades.
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:06 PM
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Excessive oil consumption for Ford F150 2018 2019 and 2020 V5.0 litter is defined in the TSB documentation by Ford where some models are corrected by replacing/reprograming the PCB. However the fix does not always work and engine replacement is the next step. I don't understand the 2 quart dipstick, it is a standing joke where I work. Not sure why they decided to buy back my 2019 Ford as opposed to putting in a new engine, but I am happy for now.
 
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:11 PM
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Yes, Ford agreed to buy it back. Some smoke at startup but no leaks. I brought the vehicle to the dealership every 3000 miles after the first oil change performed at 6000 miles. The service center would not look me in the eye last time I was there. They were friendly and sorry for my oil looses. there needs to be a fickled finger of fate award for the Ford engineer who came up with the 2 quart dipstick.
 
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:15 PM
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Unfortunately even if I detected oil on the plug, there is no way to communicate it to the mechanic. There are layers between me and a dealerships mechanic. All this information is filtered out even at a small town dealership like mine. Ford and the dealership must figure out the problem and address it. It would however be much easier if they listen to the consumer. Maybe in the future there will be individual chat rooms for vehicles being repaired so the customer has more direct communication and feedback. The lag in getting me information from Ford was months, after a few weeks I am looking at litigation. But hey they bought back the vehicle, yea.
 
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:19 PM
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I also heard there were calibration problems at the factory for a select group of vehicles. The rings were not properly seated. That is why you see them waiting 10 or 20 thousand miles before taking action, putting in a 2 quart dipstick and changing the programing on the PCB believing the rings will eventual seal. I suspect they keep a lid of this information at Ford and we consumers will never know.
 
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmo1999
All vehicle manufactures don't consider doing anything unless they burn 1qt. in 600mi. There are a lot of other manufactures out there that burn way more oil then that. Equinox's will burn 5 qts. in 2,000 mi. chevy trucks seem to burn oil.
All is a strong word. I also heard that crap on the streets about all truck engines burn lots of oil. Would like the documentation your basing your statement on. Yea my old 1980 Harley burnt 1 quart ever 500 miles, but that was because it used the same engine oil to drip oil the chain. You can expect lots of problems out of a vehicle that burns more than 1 quart every 4000 or 5000 miles.
 
Old Jan 24, 2021 | 07:59 PM
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I have worked in Chevy and Ford dealerships. I own my own repair shop for last 22 yrs. I find that most people check oil and if it is on the low end of the hash marks they add a full qt. which most of the tie will cause it to be over full. When an engine is over full they will burn oil or push the oil out seals, i see it all the time. Hence the 2 qt. dipstick. After an oil change you should know where the full mark is so that you can properly check the oil and add only how much is needed. Most people don't check oil and the ones that do just don't understand this. So this is probably there reason and i totally understand why. I hope this makes sense to you.
I had a customer one time that checked his oil after an oil change and said that we did not fill it because it was in the lower third of the hash mark and so he added a half qt. I could not convince him that it was full and the reason the dipstick was off because they are pushed into the block and if not all the way it would read low, so next time we cut the top off of dipstick and he never knew.
 
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You can expect lots of problems for people that don't change their oil every 5,000 mi. and 1 qt. in 4000 mi. you will never tell on the plugs and is never going to be a problem. I did say Never.
 
Old Feb 19, 2021 | 11:12 AM
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Hi George, I was wondering if you got anywhere with the Better Business or with Ford itself? My F150 is from 2019 as well as has been having the same issue and I can not get any answers from my dealership and I am lost on what to do next. Thank you
It takes months to verify oil consumption by the dealership. I wrote letters "certified" to Ford stating lemon law and requesting a buy back, while I waited for the dealership to verify my concerns. I then went to the BBB, who contacted Ford. According to BBB, Ford affirmed there was a problem with the engine, thereby agreeing to buy back the vehicle. This took about a year of letter writing, phone calls, and visits to the dealership. As I understand, if your vehicle is burning more than 1 quart every 3000 miles, you have a problem Ford will address. I was around 2500 miles/quart. You should have a 60,000 mile 5 year warranty on the drive train. So while time is on your side, I was scared and I have never had a vendor stand behind their warranty . Even with the buy back I am out thousands of dollars. But Ford is paying more for my vehicle than I could sale it for, in fact I would not sale this vehicle with the defects it has.
 
Old Feb 19, 2021 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jmo1999
I have worked in Chevy and Ford dealerships. I own my own repair shop for last 22 yrs. I find that most people check oil and if it is on the low end of the hash marks they add a full qt. which most of the tie will cause it to be over full. When an engine is over full they will burn oil or push the oil out seals, i see it all the time. Hence the 2 qt. dipstick. After an oil change you should know where the full mark is so that you can properly check the oil and add only how much is needed. Most people don't check oil and the ones that do just don't understand this. So this is probably there reason and i totally understand why. I hope this makes sense to you.
I had a customer one time that checked his oil after an oil change and said that we did not fill it because it was in the lower third of the hash mark and so he added a half qt. I could not convince him that it was full and the reason the dipstick was off because they are pushed into the block and if not all the way it would read low, so next time we cut the top off of dipstick and he never knew.
Next year maybe they will add a 3 quart dip stick and so on. No your reply does not make sense. As in your example if the dipstick is at the lower third of the hash mark on a 2 quart dip stick, how low on oil is the vehicle. If it is easy to overfill and damage the vehicle engine, the 2 quart dipstick only elevates the problem.
 
Old Feb 19, 2021 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hanky
I have a question that might shed some light on what may or may not be a problem..

Usually any engine that is burning oil will show some signs of deposits on the spark plugs.
Have not had an opportunity to check a relatively new vehicle with this possible problem.
I agree there are several things I should look for, leakage of oil, color of exhaust, color of the spark plugs. Unfortunately when the consumer evaluates a new vehicle and presents results to dealership, it is like self medicating, they look at you as if you are crazy, they question your motive, and they dismiss your actions as harmful.. The dealership has to agree that it is a problem, his mechanics have to buy into the issue. I found that some of the mechanics at the dealership affirmed the engine burned excessive amounts of oil. I appreciate their honesty. But there was no easy solution short of buying back the vehicle.
 

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