Power Window - Attach to Regulator
#1
12-01-2012, 04:41 PM
Power Window - Attach to Regulator
My window detached from the regulator, causing the glass to fall to the bottom of the door. I think the rivets that connect the window glass to the regulator broke. I was able to get the glass up and it is currently being held in place by painters tape.
I have found information on replacing a regulator, but my regulator works fine. I've been trying to find instructions and/or diagrams on how to reattach the glass to the regulator, but have been unable to find anything. I've been to two auto parts stores. I even took the parts with me so I could show them exactly what I was looking for. The first one was unable to find anything on their computer. The second told me that I could not buy those separately; I'd have to buy the entire assembly. (I'm not very knowledgeable about such things, but that just seems ridiculous.) Can someone please help me? What size rivets do I need? (Again, I am looking for the ones that secure the glass to the regulator, not the ones that secure the regulator to the door.) Can I use bolts instead? Please be specific as to size, type, and if any special tools are required.
Also, there were two white plastic discs in the bottom of the door, probably an inch or so in diameter. One of them was broken in half. Are these also parts I need to replace?
Finally, is there anything I need to do after the glass is secured?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
I have found information on replacing a regulator, but my regulator works fine. I've been trying to find instructions and/or diagrams on how to reattach the glass to the regulator, but have been unable to find anything. I've been to two auto parts stores. I even took the parts with me so I could show them exactly what I was looking for. The first one was unable to find anything on their computer. The second told me that I could not buy those separately; I'd have to buy the entire assembly. (I'm not very knowledgeable about such things, but that just seems ridiculous.) Can someone please help me? What size rivets do I need? (Again, I am looking for the ones that secure the glass to the regulator, not the ones that secure the regulator to the door.) Can I use bolts instead? Please be specific as to size, type, and if any special tools are required.
Also, there were two white plastic discs in the bottom of the door, probably an inch or so in diameter. One of them was broken in half. Are these also parts I need to replace?
Finally, is there anything I need to do after the glass is secured?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
#3
12-01-2012, 09:23 PM
Those are actually called window regulator rivets, even though they attach the channel/guide to the glass. Their the same design (although they come if a few lengths) as the regulator rivets. Their 1/4 diameter rivets and take a heavy duty rivet gun designed for WR rivets.
Thats the reason you won't find them at an auto parts stores (most times), not much call, and the gun isn't all that cheap. Not worth the purchase price for one job for some DIY's. Usually auto stores don't carry any rivets over 3/16.. Some higher end parts supply houses will have them. Just like any tools, you can buy a 'decent' gun, eBay and on the net, body shop supply etc. if your looking to tool up. Auto supply should be able to order one in.
Sometimes depending on models, you can substitute 1/4 bolts with lock nuts, although sometimes tricky to get into place and tightened. Space at times can be critical, so the shortest bolt with just a lock nut/nylock will do the trick. Washers if you can use them, but sometimes make the stack too long.
Generally the disks have one shouldered edge, and the other either snaps or slides over the other. The design is so, that when riveted (or bolted) they bottom and won't put too much pinch pressure on the glass, and are used to bush and align the attachment. Maybe a shop that installs glass, or a dismantler may have a broken glass that you could salvage some pieces. You should be able to improvise if need be..
Thats the reason you won't find them at an auto parts stores (most times), not much call, and the gun isn't all that cheap. Not worth the purchase price for one job for some DIY's. Usually auto stores don't carry any rivets over 3/16.. Some higher end parts supply houses will have them. Just like any tools, you can buy a 'decent' gun, eBay and on the net, body shop supply etc. if your looking to tool up. Auto supply should be able to order one in.
Sometimes depending on models, you can substitute 1/4 bolts with lock nuts, although sometimes tricky to get into place and tightened. Space at times can be critical, so the shortest bolt with just a lock nut/nylock will do the trick. Washers if you can use them, but sometimes make the stack too long.
Generally the disks have one shouldered edge, and the other either snaps or slides over the other. The design is so, that when riveted (or bolted) they bottom and won't put too much pinch pressure on the glass, and are used to bush and align the attachment. Maybe a shop that installs glass, or a dismantler may have a broken glass that you could salvage some pieces. You should be able to improvise if need be..
Last edited by Hayapower; 12-01-2012 at 09:56 PM.
#4
12-03-2012, 06:38 AM
FYI...
If you do get the rivets and gun to install them with be careful to ensure the rivet gun is straight and flush to the surface when using it. I've seen a many of windows instantly disapear into a zillion pieces because the gun was not straight and flush.
If you do get the rivets and gun to install them with be careful to ensure the rivet gun is straight and flush to the surface when using it. I've seen a many of windows instantly disapear into a zillion pieces because the gun was not straight and flush.
#5
12-24-2013, 01:38 AM
Re: Power Window - Attach to Regulator
The first thing that needs to be installed is the new regulator. It can be slipped through the window slot in the door and lowered into place. Replace all the screws that were removed. Once mounted, the motor can be attached to the regulator. Check to be sure that the electrical connector to the motor is attached and that the latching tabs have engaged.
The window needs to be reinstalled next. Slip it into the channel, supporting it well, and slip the studs into the appropriate holes in the regulator. Reattach with the same nuts that were used before.
Before continuing, check the operation of the window. If necessary, add more silicone lubricant to ensure smooth operation.
Place the interior door trim panel onto the door by hooking the window seal in place first. Align the snap-in connectors and strike the door panel at their locations with a rubber mallet or the side of a fist to seat them. Reconnect the door handle to the operation rod and slip the door handle pocket back into place. Finally, reinstall the screws that were removed from the door panel.OR we can visit to auto body shop for this work they can handle it properly.
The window needs to be reinstalled next. Slip it into the channel, supporting it well, and slip the studs into the appropriate holes in the regulator. Reattach with the same nuts that were used before.
Before continuing, check the operation of the window. If necessary, add more silicone lubricant to ensure smooth operation.
Place the interior door trim panel onto the door by hooking the window seal in place first. Align the snap-in connectors and strike the door panel at their locations with a rubber mallet or the side of a fist to seat them. Reconnect the door handle to the operation rod and slip the door handle pocket back into place. Finally, reinstall the screws that were removed from the door panel.OR we can visit to auto body shop for this work they can handle it properly.
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