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Old 09-04-2011, 03:54 PM
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OK codes are the same,
With exception of the O2 I'm getting a code for every sensor.
Odd ones are the P/N switch (open circuit) and (intermittent something I forgot)

Alt. over charging

and forgot the number but it was no power to pin #5 at the pcm.
I got a wiring diagram and found power to pin #5 was supplied from the turbine shaft sensor (input) changed it and still the same.
 
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:10 PM
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Hank Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?

When the code said no power to pin #5 at the pcm I was thinking computer.
(behind the glove box)

For the heck of it I checked autozone an they call the pcm the relay box atop the rad. (power train control module)

So exactly which one is the pcm?
 
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:52 PM
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Joe,
Please provide some important info since 1995 was a transitional year.
Some vehicles had TFI IV ignition and some had TFI V ignition systems.
We need the engine size, also the code numbers you got from Autozone if possible.
Usually the item you questioned located on the radiator under the cover is called an "IRCM - Integrated Relay Control Module".
The PCM usually is located behind the glove box and connected under the hood at the firewall. This is not set in stone because the modules are located all over the place depending on what engine is in the car.
By the way , if your car does have an IRCM , inside that module is the power relay for the computer. We have to take the things one at a time until we get the info straight so we know where we're going.
 
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:59 PM
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Hi again Hank

I'll pull the codes again tomorrow (I'm doing that not autozone)

No idea on the ignitions, How do I tell the diff. between them?
 
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:37 AM
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Hi Hank, sorry didn't get back sooner

Had a tree come down on my house during Irene and not more then 2 days ago my daughters place got flooded out. The weather here has been extreme to say the least. It will be awhile before I can get the codes, Pulled something in my back tending to everything. I did however get a chance to drive the car on the interstate and it was an experience to say the least. The cruise was set at 65 and all was good for 20 miles or so then the car on it's own climbed to 75 (I could here something humming or whining) under the hood, Then the cruise shut itself off car slowed a bit and then downshifted by itself. The next thing was everything else followed. Trq. converter locking in and out random searching for gears and the engine starting running poor (could also smell fuel so I know it wasn't firing right)

The last thing I got to do was change the CCRM and cleaned all the connections to it.
Still to no avail.....
 

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Old 09-12-2011, 02:31 PM
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If your vehicle has TFI IV ign usually no crank sensor, TFIV usually has a crank sensor and o2 sensors after the converters.
Please provide engine size as shown on underhood label.
 
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:16 AM
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Alright Hank here we go,
went out last night found some more nasty looking wires. (large plug inner fender just to the right of the air box 10mm bolt in center)
got that taken care of, Cleared the codes & went for a drive.
I got about 40 miles & had to turn back.
The codes I now get (most of them are now gone)
56
55
65
& then I got 111 twice..

I've got the ford obd1 list but I can't make heads or tails out of 65
& why would it give me 111 (system ok) if I'm getting codes?
not to mention it gave it twice..

Let me know what you think here, I'm at a loss and once again appreciate any and all help.

Engine 3.0 (u code pushrod engine)
and only 1 O2 and that's an easy one to get too.
(right out front facing the rad.)
 
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:19 PM
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Joe,
I'm pretty sure your vehicle has the TFI IV ign syst.
The puzzling part is how you are getting 2 digit codes with a 3 digit pass code.
I'm curious about that 10 mm bolt and the connector. Could you have been referring to the computer plug?
Also from what I was able to find , so far, those codes don't apply to your vehicle.
The KOEO codes are items that are presently not functioning unless, they are history codes. If so and the vehicle runs OK , clear them and see if they come back.
 
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:54 PM
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Hank it's a 95 = OBD1 not OBD2, OBD1 basic codes are 2 digits.
Also the KOKE doesn't work on this, A jumper wire and a test light.

There was no pause and the last of the codes so I had to piece them together.
Ford OBD1 expanded has some 3 digit codes which code mean my last codes might have been,
651
11
111
Meaning it didn't repeat the 111 twice.
 
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:27 PM
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Hank here's the list I been using (unsure if this site will block the url?)

troublecodes.net/Ford/

Would be great if someone could shed some light on this.
Ford used 3 digit codes for OBD1?

If so why do I have 2 digit #'s on this list?

So if we're using 3 digit codes then it would be,
565 565 111 111 ? Correct?

Is it normal for the system to repeat the numbers?
I know on my Cougar it does but that's OBD2
It will give the # straight then repeat it with a P (for pending)

I'm puzzled now more then you are Hank, Let me know what you think...

Thanks again, sinc. Joe

** going to find a place to upload some pics I took of the plug for you Hank, & I'll guess it runs to the pc as all the wire colors matched the wiring diagram colors to the pcm **
 

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