'00 E150 conversion, poor handling and steering
I recently purchased a 2000 E150 conversion van with 100k miles on it. Love everything about the van (and I've been a happy F150 owner for about 15 years), but it has some serious handling issues... my F150 is a 2002, so I expected a similar ride... No way!!
The van is pretty good driving in the city, but over 50mph on the highway the steering kinda wanders, bumps in the road try to turn the wheel, and it can become challenging to control. For example, I was trying to change lanes and the lane divider was a little chewed up-- as soon as the right side wheels hit the divider, the van swerved pretty hard. Steering inputs are strange; there's no slop in the wheel, but it takes a certain amount of input before the steering responds, and then it seems to all catch up at once, making it easy to over control.
There already is a Monroe steering damper installed, which looks to be in good shape. Had the front end, steering and suspension inspected and everything looked tight, including the ball joints which seem to be the common issue with these vans. There was slop in the tie rods so they were replaced, but that didn't do a darn thing except make the van lighter by thinning out my wallet.
Not really sure what to try next. I'm considering replacing the ball joints anyway, but I'm pretty much already over budget and I'd like to put some serious miles on this thing (it's a touring band van now). I'm pretty concerned about driving this thing in deteriorated road conditions. Could use some guidance or recommendations for experts Chicago... or maybe these things just handle like a drunken hippo?
Thanks!
The van is pretty good driving in the city, but over 50mph on the highway the steering kinda wanders, bumps in the road try to turn the wheel, and it can become challenging to control. For example, I was trying to change lanes and the lane divider was a little chewed up-- as soon as the right side wheels hit the divider, the van swerved pretty hard. Steering inputs are strange; there's no slop in the wheel, but it takes a certain amount of input before the steering responds, and then it seems to all catch up at once, making it easy to over control.
There already is a Monroe steering damper installed, which looks to be in good shape. Had the front end, steering and suspension inspected and everything looked tight, including the ball joints which seem to be the common issue with these vans. There was slop in the tie rods so they were replaced, but that didn't do a darn thing except make the van lighter by thinning out my wallet.
Not really sure what to try next. I'm considering replacing the ball joints anyway, but I'm pretty much already over budget and I'd like to put some serious miles on this thing (it's a touring band van now). I'm pretty concerned about driving this thing in deteriorated road conditions. Could use some guidance or recommendations for experts Chicago... or maybe these things just handle like a drunken hippo?
Thanks!
Sometimes handling can be affected by things in the rear of the suspension. Might be a good idea to have a reputable alignment shop check it over. Weight distribution can get into the picture also. Usually what we try to do is find what is really worn or wrong and then correct it . Replacing good parts not only costs unnecessary expense ,but gets quite disappointing too! Have someone that knows what to look for check it out, once!
Researching the internet and seeing as so many people are having the same steering and handling issues with the ford vans around 1999. And I keep reading that everyone is replacing similar parts. So it must be other parts that are specifically to ford Vans like the I-beam bushings. I don't read much about that being replaces. And why does it get worse at speeds over 50 or 60. At that speed it seams like a mechanic cannot test components under that pressure on components with slight turning movement on the tires.
This is what I replaces so far the normal stuff:
1) Ball Joints
2) Inner and outer tie rods and linkage
3) New tires
4) Alignment
5) Radius Arm Bushings
Planning to replace
1) I-Beam Bushings - specific to all ford vans with I-Beam suspension
2) Sway Bar bushings
3) Steering box
4) check if any u-joints in the steering shaft. Have not checked yet.
Well any ideas or if you found the solution please let us know.
Thanks in advance.
This is what I replaces so far the normal stuff:
1) Ball Joints
2) Inner and outer tie rods and linkage
3) New tires
4) Alignment
5) Radius Arm Bushings
Planning to replace
1) I-Beam Bushings - specific to all ford vans with I-Beam suspension
2) Sway Bar bushings
3) Steering box
4) check if any u-joints in the steering shaft. Have not checked yet.
Well any ideas or if you found the solution please let us know.
Thanks in advance.
Researching the internet and seeing as so many people are having the same steering and handling issues with the ford vans around 1999. And I keep reading that everyone is replacing similar parts. So it must be other parts that are specifically to ford Vans like the I-beam bushings. I don't read much about that being replaces. And why does it get worse at speeds over 50 or 60. At that speed it seams like a mechanic cannot test components under that pressure on components with slight turning movement on the tires.
This is what I replaces so far the normal stuff:
1) Ball Joints
2) Inner and outer tie rods and linkage
3) New tires
4) Alignment
5) Radius Arm Bushings
Planning to replace
1) I-Beam Bushings - specific to all ford vans with I-Beam suspension
2) Sway Bar bushings
3) Steering box
4) check if any u-joints in the steering shaft. Have not checked yet.
Well any ideas or if you found the solution please let us know.
Thanks in advance.
This is what I replaces so far the normal stuff:
1) Ball Joints
2) Inner and outer tie rods and linkage
3) New tires
4) Alignment
5) Radius Arm Bushings
Planning to replace
1) I-Beam Bushings - specific to all ford vans with I-Beam suspension
2) Sway Bar bushings
3) Steering box
4) check if any u-joints in the steering shaft. Have not checked yet.
Well any ideas or if you found the solution please let us know.
Thanks in advance.
Sebastian
I recently purchased a 2000 E150 conversion van with 100k miles on it. Love everything about the van (and I've been a happy F150 owner for about 15 years), but it has some serious handling issues... my F150 is a 2002, so I expected a similar ride... No way!!
The van is pretty good driving in the city, but over 50mph on the highway the steering kinda wanders, bumps in the road try to turn the wheel, and it can become challenging to control. For example, I was trying to change lanes and the lane divider was a little chewed up-- as soon as the right side wheels hit the divider, the van swerved pretty hard. Steering inputs are strange; there's no slop in the wheel, but it takes a certain amount of input before the steering responds, and then it seems to all catch up at once, making it easy to over control.
There already is a Monroe steering damper installed, which looks to be in good shape. Had the front end, steering and suspension inspected and everything looked tight, including the ball joints which seem to be the common issue with these vans. There was slop in the tie rods so they were replaced, but that didn't do a darn thing except make the van lighter by thinning out my wallet.
Not really sure what to try next. I'm considering replacing the ball joints anyway, but I'm pretty much already over budget and I'd like to put some serious miles on this thing (it's a touring band van now). I'm pretty concerned about driving this thing in deteriorated road conditions. Could use some guidance or recommendations for experts Chicago... or maybe these things just handle like a drunken hippo?
Thanks!
The van is pretty good driving in the city, but over 50mph on the highway the steering kinda wanders, bumps in the road try to turn the wheel, and it can become challenging to control. For example, I was trying to change lanes and the lane divider was a little chewed up-- as soon as the right side wheels hit the divider, the van swerved pretty hard. Steering inputs are strange; there's no slop in the wheel, but it takes a certain amount of input before the steering responds, and then it seems to all catch up at once, making it easy to over control.
There already is a Monroe steering damper installed, which looks to be in good shape. Had the front end, steering and suspension inspected and everything looked tight, including the ball joints which seem to be the common issue with these vans. There was slop in the tie rods so they were replaced, but that didn't do a darn thing except make the van lighter by thinning out my wallet.
Not really sure what to try next. I'm considering replacing the ball joints anyway, but I'm pretty much already over budget and I'd like to put some serious miles on this thing (it's a touring band van now). I'm pretty concerned about driving this thing in deteriorated road conditions. Could use some guidance or recommendations for experts Chicago... or maybe these things just handle like a drunken hippo?
Thanks!
Please don't respond if you're guessing, I want to hear from folks who solved the problem. Thanks
Unless a tech can look and check physically, you are expecting miracles and not guesses. To try solving a problem without doing a thorough inspection , plus knowing what to look for is critical. If everybody is looking only up front, that is only half the inspection.
I have found tire brands have a lot to do with handling and some tires that once were great are not that great today.
I have found tire brands have a lot to do with handling and some tires that once were great are not that great today.
Unless a tech can look and check physically, you are expecting miracles and not guesses. To try solving a problem without doing a thorough inspection , plus knowing what to look for is critical. If everybody is looking only up front, that is only half the inspection.
I have found tire brands have a lot to do with handling and some tires that once were great are not that great today.
I have found tire brands have a lot to do with handling and some tires that once were great are not that great today.
WIth all due respect, techs? Lol. I've had techs and store managers lie to my face, trying to drum up work. That's why, as I said, I already replaced the front end...including all ball joints, all tie rods, sway bar bushings and dialed in the toe...so want to hear actual fixes. No guessing in that...that's hard evidence...
You have replaced a lot of parts already, and now know more than the people you have checking your vehicle.
Go for broke and replace what is left and maybe that will be your fix
Did you ever check the steering linkage for wear with the wheels on the ground and have someone look for wear in the steering parts ?
Go for broke and replace what is left and maybe that will be your fix
Did you ever check the steering linkage for wear with the wheels on the ground and have someone look for wear in the steering parts ?
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