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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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1985 Econoline,,,,351,,,,Being retrofitted. Any idea how much Freon it takes? The sticker is gone and I would like to know even though I have gauges.
 
Old Jun 16, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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Think it was 56.00 oz. R12, 10 oz oil. But a retro to 134a will be less and should be checked and monitored during charge.

I just retro'd to Enviro Safe in my old Dart after a catastrophic compressors failure. Operates at much less pressure (better on the old tired system) and blows very cold.
 
Old Jun 16, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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google it but iirc when retrofitting, the r134a charge level should be 10% less than what the r12 was.
 
Old Jun 16, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Thanks, I will keep a close eye on the gauges.
 
Old Jun 17, 2016 | 03:24 AM
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Didn't mention if you have single (front) A/C or dual A/C (front & rear). If front A/C only, Hayapower is correct at 56.00 oz. R12, 10 oz. oil. If dual, they it is 68.00 oz. R12, 13 oz. oil.

I would also recommend that the dryer/receiver be replaced. Your should pull a vacuum for at least one hour after reaching your maximum pull. I would recommend changing the high pressure cutoff switch to a R134a switch (one rated at 400#). Otherwise, you may experience cycling issues. When adding R-134a only fill to 85% of the R-12 capacity, watching the high side pressure carefully. Use a PAG oil with the R-134a.
 

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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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Can't find a retrofit kit that will work on the fittings. The new fittings are too big. Any ideas?
 
Old Jun 18, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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If I understand you correctly, you will need a set of gauges specially for R134A since the fittings are larger to prevent accidental contamination. Usually the new fittings in a kit will adapt to the R12 fittings and go right over them. R12 gauges and hoses are no longer able to be used.
 
Old Jun 19, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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The retrofit kit that I bought says it fits all before 1994, but this ford has a smaller valve than normal apparently. The low side valve is almost as small as a tire valve. Still can't find the high side valve at all.
 
Old Jun 19, 2016 | 05:45 PM
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If it is any help, the line coming from the condenser in front of the radiator (you don't have a roof unit by any chance do you?)should go to an accumulator (receiver/dryer) and it is considered the high side., The high side fitting may be located on the accumulator. With R12 , it is the smaller of the two fittings. This brings up another point, your vehicle may have a Tecumseh compressor which was usually mounted vertically and the valves were on the compressor. Is this what you have?
 
Old Jun 21, 2016 | 07:36 PM
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The one I can find is about 1/4" . It is right behind the headlight on the driver's side. I assume it is the low one. It has something similar to a tire valve In the middle of it.
 



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