When you say half does that mean some are wet and some are not?

 

yes I pulled out no. 1 to see where the bug was pointed on the distributor and when it came up on the comp. stroke I found out it is in perfect time but my plugs were black and covered with carbon. like it was being cleaned with injector cleaner but no place to go I think about the only thing I can do is get some new plugs and wires and see what that does to it. It can't hurt it any when it does start it runs on about half the pistons and I have a lot of blow by I don't know if it's flooded or what to do next.
My oldest brother wants me to go with a crappy c@#$% which I ain't ever had any kind luck or service with. the only one that I'll ever keep around is the the car that I got when my father passed on and that I can't bring myself to get rid of it.

 

Hi Floyd !
Would you consider something?
There are some things that you have to be absolutely sure of and they are , compression and fuel and spark.
Before you blow some more $ on plugs etc, which is not a bad thing , but could you rent or borrow a compression tester and see just what compression you have in all the cylinders. And also a fuel pressure gauge . Once these things are ruled out you can at least know where you stand. I can't help wondering if the timing gear is in the right place. If you took the dist out and put it back in the right place ,yes the rotor(bug) will always appear to be in the right place , but where is the camshaft?
A compression test will answer / eliminate that possibility once and for all.

 

not to sound like a smart *** but when I put the new chain in the timing marks were right where they were supposed to be crank dot on top cam mark on bottom crank had slot for key cam has pin now unless ford changed the timing marks for the cam then it should be right on the money and not be out of time at all because I didn't touch the distributor until I tried to time the thing with a lite so that way it would still be in time. just one question then did they change the timing marks or the position of the cam just to screw with people or what ?
just wanna know so that I can go and rip it all apart again and make damn sure that it's right without blowing any more money than is needed that fuel pressure tester is way more than I can get right now don't know about the comp. tester

 

I've already installed the plugs wires cap and bug it helped a bit now I can keep it running longer but my throttle still has to be half or wide open

 

Back to the basics Floyd. I believe there are a couple of wires that are either bolted to the therm housing or somewhere on top of the engine. They should be ground wires. If you follow them you can make sure of that. Make sure they are making a good connection with the engine ground because I believe one of them provides the ground for the computer. There is a condition where if the throttle position sensor loses its ground the engine will flood because it is telling the computer the throttle is open calling for more fuel. Those ground wires are extremely important and should have good solid connections.
Could you have the dist retarded too far?

 

Floyd,
I have decided to stop having you play hunt and poke trying to find the problem with your vehicle. There is no reason for me to make any more suggestions without the necessary equipment to properly diagnose this job. There is only so much you can do without the tools to do this right. Maybe someone else will be able to help based on the conflicting info available.

 

I thank you Hanky for all your help. I let the truck go yesterday just couldn't spend any more on it and not get it running any better or worse. I hated not having the funds to put it in the shop and get it going like it should be maybe the new owner will have much better luck than I did. my next one will be an older truck without any computer on it or e.f.i. of any kind. I just have to be a little patient until I can save up the cash to buy it.
I hate the fact that it beat me a new one but I should've known better than buy one that advanced and I won't ever get another one unless it has been put back the old school way.

 

Sorry to have missed this discussion....grindman....since the truck is gone....did you ever check the powertrain control module to see if the preset time was gone ......curious is all...sorry about the hair pulling, bat toting ordeal....

 

I didn't get the chance to check much of anything on it. I got so fed up with it I just let it go got another brand truck and ain't been happy with it either worst fuel milage of any truck I ever owned. now I'm see what this little ranger will do when I get it ready to use as regular transpo. I don't care much for any v 6 motor but i'll have to give it a chance to prove it self.