Correct Payload Value??
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Correct Payload Value??
Hello all, would love some quick feedback - I just picked up a 2019 F250 Platinum 4x4 Diesel. On the drivers door the sticker says Max Payload is 1963 pounds. The dealer provided a specs printout based on my VIN which shows 2670 pounds. Are both referring to the same thing or what is the difference? I’m looking at a fifth wheel with a pin weight of 2000 pounds so I really need to understand which number is correct to determine if I safely pull my desired RV. Fifth wheel towing capacity of 14700 pounds is no problem, just the payload needs some clarity. Thanks.
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Welcome to the site..
'Net' payload is what can be carried in the bed. Its the golden number once you have subtracted for passengers, gear, or any add on equipment etc.
Max/Gross is factoring for the weight all passengers, gear, equipment, plus the beds loading..
Cab profile, 2x4, 4x4, bed/chassis length, engine as well all factor in for carry capacity.. What cab etc?
Whats the Max.GVWR, and Wheel Base listed on the VCL? (cert label in the door jamb) I'll look it up..
'Net' payload is what can be carried in the bed. Its the golden number once you have subtracted for passengers, gear, or any add on equipment etc.
Max/Gross is factoring for the weight all passengers, gear, equipment, plus the beds loading..
Cab profile, 2x4, 4x4, bed/chassis length, engine as well all factor in for carry capacity.. What cab etc?
Whats the Max.GVWR, and Wheel Base listed on the VCL? (cert label in the door jamb) I'll look it up..
Last edited by Hayapower; Jan 26, 2019 at 06:56 PM.
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It’s a 2019 F250, crewcab, 4x4, 6.7 diesel, 6.75 ft bed (short bed) which I do know all impact towing and payload capacity. GVWR is 9900 pounds.
Dealer VIN printout shows 2670 payload but the door sticker that shows all the tire pressures show 1963. Thanks for your help.
Dealer VIN printout shows 2670 payload but the door sticker that shows all the tire pressures show 1963. Thanks for your help.
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I see,,
10,000 GVWR to be 2670, and 9,900 at 2570..
Crew Cab, 6.7, 4x4, 159.8 WB
Likely your looking at the trucks ARC weight,, OPT/ARC..
OPT/ARC is the Accessory Capacity Reserve. It’s the maximum allowable weight for regular production options (OPT) and aftermarket reserve equipment (ARC) for completed pick up models with standard equipment and the powertrain combo indicated.
Basically,, it’s your ‘combined’ F/R total axle carrying capacities added together (GAWR) then subtract your GVWR. It’s the safety or difference between what the axles ratings/limits are, and the truck itself was rated at for gross..
Taking your trucks Base Curb weight, then subtracting the GVWR will get you very near the payload figure..
10,000 GVWR to be 2670, and 9,900 at 2570..
Crew Cab, 6.7, 4x4, 159.8 WB
Likely your looking at the trucks ARC weight,, OPT/ARC..
OPT/ARC is the Accessory Capacity Reserve. It’s the maximum allowable weight for regular production options (OPT) and aftermarket reserve equipment (ARC) for completed pick up models with standard equipment and the powertrain combo indicated.
Basically,, it’s your ‘combined’ F/R total axle carrying capacities added together (GAWR) then subtract your GVWR. It’s the safety or difference between what the axles ratings/limits are, and the truck itself was rated at for gross..
Taking your trucks Base Curb weight, then subtracting the GVWR will get you very near the payload figure..
Last edited by Hayapower; Jan 27, 2019 at 09:45 AM.
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I see,,
10,000 GVWR to be 2670, and 9,900 at 2570..
Crew Cab, 6.7, 4x4, 159.8 WB
Likely your looking at the trucks ARC weight,, OPT/ARC..
OPT/ARC is the Accessory Capacity Reserve. It’s the maximum allowable weight for regular production options (OPT) and aftermarket reserve equipment (ARC) for completed pick up models with standard equipment and the powertrain combo indicated.
Basically,, it’s your ‘combined’ F/R total axle carrying capacities added together (GAWR) then subtract your GVWR. It’s the safety or difference between what the axles ratings/limits are, and the truck itself was rated at for gross..
Taking your trucks Base Curb weight, then subtracting the GVWR will get you very near the payload figure..
10,000 GVWR to be 2670, and 9,900 at 2570..
Crew Cab, 6.7, 4x4, 159.8 WB
Likely your looking at the trucks ARC weight,, OPT/ARC..
OPT/ARC is the Accessory Capacity Reserve. It’s the maximum allowable weight for regular production options (OPT) and aftermarket reserve equipment (ARC) for completed pick up models with standard equipment and the powertrain combo indicated.
Basically,, it’s your ‘combined’ F/R total axle carrying capacities added together (GAWR) then subtract your GVWR. It’s the safety or difference between what the axles ratings/limits are, and the truck itself was rated at for gross..
Taking your trucks Base Curb weight, then subtracting the GVWR will get you very near the payload figure..
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ARC weight on the VCL is new, Payload rating isn’t published on the label that I’ve seen.
The reason being the potentials to offset the max payload with optional/personal equipment.. Be it heavy racks, in bed fuel tank, loaded tool boxes , full cab/passengers and gear, or even a bed swap etc.. If the max payload were published as a standard, and all add on weight options not factored in, as well as ‘in cab’ weights overlooked (or continually changing) and the max payload then carried in bed, the truck wouldn’t be legal. Using the VCL data, ARC values, GAWR’s, the Payload correction is easy to figure. Both 4x4, 4x2 equipped, wheel base length, and cab profiles affect payloads by hundreds of pounds as well...
The reason being the potentials to offset the max payload with optional/personal equipment.. Be it heavy racks, in bed fuel tank, loaded tool boxes , full cab/passengers and gear, or even a bed swap etc.. If the max payload were published as a standard, and all add on weight options not factored in, as well as ‘in cab’ weights overlooked (or continually changing) and the max payload then carried in bed, the truck wouldn’t be legal. Using the VCL data, ARC values, GAWR’s, the Payload correction is easy to figure. Both 4x4, 4x2 equipped, wheel base length, and cab profiles affect payloads by hundreds of pounds as well...
Last edited by Hayapower; Feb 23, 2019 at 10:50 AM.
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