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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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double check the connection at the crank position sensor, I found out today that this was my problem. The pig tail is coming from rock auto asap. Just a heads up. Do you know anyone with a ohm meter? I hope some one close can help you.
 
Old Jan 9, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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OK, I checked for spark at the plug end and at the coil and there is nothing. I crossed the battery cables as noted and tried again and still nothing.

HELP!!!!!
I am going to replace the cam sensor in the morning and if that is not it then I'm just lost.

any advice will be greatly appreciated
 
Old Jan 9, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by schroensr
double check the connection at the crank position sensor, I found out today that this was my problem. The pig tail is coming from rock auto asap. Just a heads up. Do you know anyone with a ohm meter? I hope some one close can help you.
i have an ohm meter, do you have a suggestion ?
 
Old Jan 9, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Did you check all the fuses, both under the hood and inside the vehicle?
 
Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:21 AM
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Check to see if you get a signal from the pig tail, you have two wires that transfer current to the pcm an then to the coil pack. I am looking at a schematic of the electric layout in a Haynes manual . I hope this gives you some insight . It says you should have a 1.5 ac voltage with the ignition on . These sensors can be checked by passing a metal object in front of them using the ohm meter.
 
Old Jan 10, 2014 | 09:33 AM
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Bill,
The crank sensor you removed/ installed on your vehicle, did it have two wires or three ? When checking it's input and output different checks are used for each of those type sensors.

If you are going to use the test stated above , the meter has to be set to the lowest AC scale to measure the AC voltage.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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Does the schematic show if any voltage is supplied to the coil pack , if so where does it come from and how much should it be and what terminal on the coil plug is it measured at?
 
Old Jan 10, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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Bill,
The crank sensor you removed/ installed on your vehicle, did it have two wires or three ? When checking it's input and output different checks are used for each of those type sensors.

If you are going to use the test stated above , the meter has to be set to the lowest AC scale to measure the AC voltage.
Hanky,
the crank sensor is 2 wire. I've checked and re-checked the fuses. I also swapped the relays as well and that seems to be ruled out. I am presuming that if the cam sensor is bad, then the computer won't get the signal and would create a 'no spark' situation. Would that be correct?
As far as the test mentioned above, I am not entirely certain whereI am supposed to be testing.

thank you, Bill
 
Old Jan 10, 2014 | 03:07 PM
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The crank sensor generates the spark signal to the PCM. The cam sensor(s) synchronize the crank and cam signals to fire the injectors at the correct time. What needs to be done is determine if the crank sensor is sending a signal to the PCM and if it is getting there. That means checking the wires at the crank sensor when cranking and if present there then go to the pcm plug and see if the signal is getting to the PCM. There needs to be a voltage supply to the coil, but I'm not sure if it is supposed to be battery voltage or a lesser amount. Different vehicles use different amounts.
That was why I asked the questions from schronser since he had a diagram handy.
If the proper voltage is at the coil and the PCM is sending the signal to the coil you should be getting spark. If that signal is not getting to the coil it could be an open wire, a poor connection or the PCM itself. We always check for power and grounds before condemning the PCM.
If you connect your multimeter (set to the lowest AC scale) to the crank sensor plug leads and crank the engine over you should get an AC voltage reading. It's a small reading. Make sure the crank sensor plugs and wires are OK and the wires up to the PCM are in good condition. They do rub and break open sometimes.
 
Old Jan 11, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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You should get a 1.5 volt reading on the meter when you hook up to one of the wires of the crank sensor. One lead feeds voltage to an one takes back to the pcm for a signal. I will try an upload a picture here soon ok.
 



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